Rob Kajiwara interviews Dr. Alfred de Zayas, professor of the Geneva School of Diplomacy and International Relations. He is a leading expert in the field of human rights and international law and high-ranking United Nations official. He was the original UN Independent Expert for a Democratic and Equitable International Order. He is also a former senior lawyer with the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Secretary of the Human Rights Committee, and the Chief of Petitions. Zayas has authored a number of books in several languages. His latest book is "Building a Just World Order" published by Clarity Press. In it he discusses what is being referred to as the Zayas Principles of International Order, and he mentions Luchu's (Okinawa's) right to self-determination multiple times.