Jennifer and I are reading/listening to William Catton's book Overshoot. This is our suggestion to you, and when everyone is ready to discuss in an audience participation chat. Joining us will be Michael Dowd.

https://soundcloud.com/michael-dowd-grace-limits/sets/william-r-catton-jr

Excellent interview done by Frank Rotering who we have interviewed.

https://youtu.be/oF6F0bgvARc